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Speedvagen adds disc brakes to road & cyclocross bikes, ups production volume

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2015 Speedvagen cyclocross bikes get disc brakes

Speedvagen, an offshoot of Vanilla Cycles that was created to offer stock and custom frames with much shorter lead times the the bespoke bikes from founder Sacha White, has finally added disc brakes on their road and cyclocross models.

The bikes get revised Berzerker dropouts that let them place the caliper mounts inside the rear triangle, placing the rear-most mounting point on the seatstay to direct braking forces up the tube rather than into the dropout. On all disc brake models, the hose/cable will run inside the downtube. On standard builds with a threaded BB, it’ll pop out and run externally on the chainstay. On PFBB30 upgrades, it’ll remain inside the frame all the way through the chainstay, popping out just in front of the caliper.

There are a few other tweaks and treats making their way to the 2015 iterations, too. Most of the tubes used are now custom drawn to their specifications, and there’s a new carbon seat tube option and carbon seatmast toppers, too. And to make it all look good, a few more paint schemes are on offer…

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The Berzerker dropout places a stainless steel insert on the outside face to prevent scratches and wear from the skewer. Sure, a simple little insert would have sufficed, but that wouldn’t be nearly as cool as this machined out piece that shows the craftsmanship of the Vanilla workshop. Almost lost to that beauty is the slick hidden brake caliper mount inset from the seatstay/dropout junction.

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Up front it’s a paint-matched ENVE cyclocross fork.

2015 Speedvagen SV cyclocross bike with disc brakes

Complete disc brake bikes will have the option of Chris King, DT Swiss or White Industries hubs laced to ENVE, HED or H+Son rims. Their road bike will get a disc brake option, too, they just don’t have any photos of it ready to share yet. As it was, we had to send in a friend to score the top three pics of the ‘cross bike just have something better to show you.

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The carbon seatmast topper (above) and carbon seat tube (below) are both custom made for them by ENVE. The topper comes in at 90g, which is about half the weight of the regular version. The seat tube cuts between one third and one half a pound off the bike. These options will set you back $250 and $850 respectively.

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Their internal Di2 battery mount attaches the battery to a top cap that requires no tools to remove, making for easier battery charging. You’ll need to remove the seatmast topper, though. It’s a $300 upgrade, but that includes the battery.

Each seatmast has a stainless steel fitting for the topper to rest on and clamp to, eliminating paint scratches.

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Every two years, Sacha picks three new color schemes, and here’s the latest three options.

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Among the new custom paint options are Ghost, a single color scheme using multiple layers of paint and masking to create the logos with a 3D effect, but all in the same color.

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Holla Text fades colors across the outline of their logo overtop a single frame color.

2015 Speedvagen SV road bike

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The Horizon paint scheme puts three or four colors in horizontal stripes from front to back, and this year you can choose which colors you want from a palette of 11 shades.

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The biggest color upgrade is Overt, which is an $1,800 option for the frame. Have them color coordinate the kit on the bike and you’ll spend another $400 to $750. Or, you can opt for the Surprise Me color scheme and have something completely different that you won’t see until it shows up on at your front door.

Stock geometry frames retail for $3,450, and full custom geometry with an included fit session is $4,350. But considering they prefer to sell it as a complete bike, it quickly becomes a sizable investment, so they’ve introduced a new crash repair program that puts your frame at the front of their work queue and gets it a special little paint application at the site of the repair. You’ll pay for labor and parts, but they’ll get it back to you as quickly as possible.

Check out the Speedvagen site here and peruse the 2015 Guidebook PDF here.

Other photo credits: Jeff Curtes & Bob Huff

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jason
jason
9 years ago

I hope SS disc might be an option!

Sam
Sam
9 years ago

Some of the best aesthetics I’ve seen in the last 5 years (but oofta that’s expensive)

Stuck at work
Stuck at work
9 years ago

Don’t really understand why someone would buy a stock geometry frame like this for $3500 when you can go get a fully custom set-up from folks like Sycip, Retrotec, Strong, etc., for a grand less. Although very beautiful, I just can’t justify spending that much coin on a stock steel frame.

mudrock
9 years ago

So a single tube upgrade to carbon is a $850 upcharge. But why the seat tube? If the goal is more vibration damping wouldn’t a carbon post work just as well, or better (I’m thinking the Ergon post)? His love affair with ISPs is an anachronism.

Richard
Richard
9 years ago

I think the main goal of the carbon seat tube option is to save some weight. Having owned both an SV road and cross bike, I can assure you that they ride like butter (in a good way). No further vibration damping is necessary.
As for the price—yes they are very expensive but you have to understand the painstaking time and skill that is involved in the paintwork alone. I would guess that they spend at least double the man-hours in paint as compared to fabrication. All of those details and colors are masked and painted by hand. It really is amazing.

pile-on
pile-on
9 years ago

@mudrock, I thought the main benefit of an ISP was to save weight–I think the idea is pretty valid since I personally rarely adjust the posts on my road and cross bikes, though larger tires do raise a bike’s height. Aesthetically speaking I think ISPs are pretty awesome.

skinewmexico
skinewmexico
9 years ago

Is there a new Federal law that requires all bike builders, including the majors, to sell a nasty, baby-blue bike?

satisFACTORYrider
satisFACTORYrider
9 years ago

sorry, steelmans all day instead.

alex
alex
9 years ago

A battery in a seat tube for a total of $1400 and you have to remove the cap/seat to charge (how convenient). Seems better to have the weight of a battery mounted as low as possible. I would add a thru axle would likely also be an upgrade. Proof that these ‘race horse’ frames (how they started) have become more for aesthetics than anything else.
Sacha is a marketing genius.

Psi Squared
Psi Squared
9 years ago

Yes, please.

alex
alex
9 years ago

Interesting how some get lost in their own verbosity and misconstrue others opinions. For your own edification, http://bikeportland.org/2007/03/06/booth-speedvagen-mark-new-direction-for-vanilla-bicycles-3146
One could think he was trying to make his frames more value based (right or wrong I don’t care).

Monty
Monty
9 years ago

@alex The battery on the newer di2 stuff does not need to be removed for charging. It is done via a port on the Junction A box that sits on the underside of the stem.

elkcycles
elkcycles
9 years ago

I lik

What?
What?
9 years ago

“Their internal Di2 battery mount attaches the battery to a top cap that requires no tools to remove, making for easier battery charging.”

You never need remove the battery for charging. Shimano’s internal battery is charged via the stem mounted upper junction box. Not really a secret anymore. Furthermore hiding this box, perhaps inside the stem or frame, eliminates the ability to update firmware or make micro adjustments to the shifting and the ability to isolate system issues via e-tube diagnostic software.

h
h
9 years ago

$7550 for a modified stock frame, fork, and battery…I wonder what a custom Vanilla costs these days? If you could even convince anyone there to put your name on the infinite wait list for frames that might never be made, that is.

Tom Rousculp
9 years ago

@skinewmexico we’ve been selling “nasty, baby-blue bikes” for years!

@alex – New Di2 charges through the A junction under the stem now.

Peter W. Polack
9 years ago

I think Speedvagens are worth every penny. Yes; I agree the price is much higher than typical, TIG welded custom frames, but the special features and unique paint are unequaled. To me, it doesn’t matter whether these features result in higher performance; from an aesthetic standpoint (and we ALL select our bikes to some extent on appearance) they are levels above whatever else is out there, including MY custom TIG welded frame. I’m envious of those willing to spend the money to own a Speedvagen!

alex
alex
9 years ago

I really liked the speedvagens when they had simple paint jobs and were tools for racing. They are works of art.

Antipodean_G
9 years ago

Price vs. value is in the ‘eye’ of the buyer. (@alex) beyond a certain point, everything comes down to marketing and creating the ‘desire factor’. I mean, if I wanted a hard core, eat the road race machine, there are any number of builders who will build one for me, for less. Does that mean I don’t want a Speedvagen less? Nope. Speedvagen offers me a lust factor that’s hard to look away from, even at that sorta money!

I personally think Speedvagen are well up there on the lust list and I have grown to not even like paint on my frames. These all look delicious, sorta like a good ice cream. And while I certainly don’t have that sorta spare cash lying around, I’d still love to own one, even just to oggl it!!!

docfink
docfink
9 years ago

@alex–in fact, a thru-axle fork is an option; you just have to ask. A Whisky fork will work well.

Tom Rousculp
9 years ago

Thanks for all of the great comments and conversation here! Seriously, I love to hear what’s on peoples minds and how Speedvagen are understood.

We do our best to keep Speedvagen pushing forward and sometimes change is hard.

That said, we will always offer a one-color matte Army green road or cross race machine with mechanical shifting and braking alongside the most advanced tech available. We do this because at the heart of the brand is a dead-simple racing machine covered in sweat and snot and road grime that does everything you ask of it. Frankly, we think they ride better than they look.
But don’t take our word for it, ask an owner.

Rob Schwartz
9 years ago

I’ve had Speedvagen on my lust list for almost 3 years, over any other bike I’ve seen. Yes pricey, but people spend more on mass produced Pinarello’s among others. But unique, luscious, and great performance. Every now and again I double check myself to see if I’m in a position to own one. Someday…

P
P
9 years ago

The rear FMB tubular on that gold disc brake bike is mounted backwards.

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