Trek Introduces the All New Émonda, Claims World’s Lightest Production Road Bike

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The title of the lightest production road bike in the world is not one to be taken lightly. So when Trek announced that they were introducing a new bike that would take the crown we were intrigued. Trek has certainly offered some light bikes over the years, but the lightest production bike in the world? That, we were excited to see.

Introducing the all new Trek Émonda, a new line of ultra light weight road bikes out of Wisconsin. While the name carries the same letters as Madone and Domane, Émonda is an all new frame that will sit along side of the current bikes. The name itself is derived from the French verb émonder – to prune or cut away. A fitting name for a bicycle where every bit of unnecessary weight has been trimmed away.

The end result is a new frame with enhanced integration, size specific performance, and the lightest production complete weight – provided you can afford it…

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Last year when we took a tour of Trek’s Waterloo head quarters there were a number of Trek Factory Racing frames hanging in the rear of the Advanced Composites Room. From a distance the frames looked similar to Madones, but with a number of small changes. Given the fact that Trek has been working on the Émonda for three years now, the secrecy surrounding the frames on the wall now makes sense.

Trek has always touted the benefits of their OCLV (Optimum Compaction Low Void) carbon fiber, but light weight has always been a back story to ride quality and strength. In order to get the weight down as low as possible while still being repeatable, Trek started what they are calling their “most stringent and sophisticated frame tube optimization project” in their history. Using size specific carbon layups and a new ultralight Ride Tuned Seat mast on the top tier bike, Trek whittled the frame weight down to an incredible 690g. Not quite the 667g Cervelo RCA, but pretty close. Trek is still quick to point out that while the Émonda frame is extremely light weight, they claim it is the best riding road bike Trek has offered.

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Built with Ultralight 700 series OCLV carbon for the SLR level frames, Émonda continues with a number of specifications like the E2 tapered head tube (1.5″-1.125″) with asymmetric steerer, BB90 bottom bracket with bearings pressed directly into the carbon, internal cable routing, and integrated 3S chain keeper, and the new DuoTrap S. As the second generation of their Speed Trap integrated computer sensors, DuoTrap S is now compatible with both Bluetooth and ANT+ connectivity and uses a new mounting system for improved looks.

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SLR Émondas will also be equipped with the new Bontrager Speed Stop brakes which are a dual post design similar to the Dura Ace integrated stoppers. Compared to Ultegra brakes, Bontrager claims a 50g per caliper weight savings. Speed Stop brakes also offer an adjustable leverage ratio, two position quick release, and a wide set design to work with the widest rims and bigger tires.

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As a complete bike the flagship Émonda SLR 10 comes in at an incredible 10.25 lb (4.6kg) and will retail for an equally staggering $15,749.99. In order to get the weight down to that level Trek is equipping the bike with Tune Skyline tubular wheels, and a Tune Komm-Vorr Plus saddle in addition to the SRAM Red drivetrain and Bontrager parts.

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Emonda_SLR10_Cockpit

Coming standard on the new SLR 10 is the new Bontrager XXX bar/stem combo which provides a 75g savings over the same XXX bar and stem combination used separately. The bar/stem combo features a 129mm drop, 93mm reach, and is compatible with Trek’s new accessory integration system, Blendr. Eventually to be found across their entire line, Blendr allows accessories like lights, computers, and even cell phones to be attached to the stem with out zip ties or additional mounts.

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Émondas will be offered in a number of builds with three different frame levels. The S series Émondas use Ultralight 300 Series OCLV (1220g painted 56cm frame), a BB86.5 bottom bracket, a standard seat post, and are DuoTrap instead of DuoTrap S compatible. Jumping up to the SL level will gain you 500 series OCLV carbon (1050g painted 56cm frame), BB90 bottom bracket, DuoTrap S compatibility, internally routed cables, and the Ride Tuned seatmast. At the high end, SLR frames carry all of the bells and whistles using 700 series OCLV carbon for the 690g painted 56cm frame. Both the SL and SLR models will be sold as framesets for $1429.99 and $4199.99 respectively. The forks differ between the three models as well with a 518g painted fork for the S, 358g painted fork for the SL, and 280g painted fork for the SLR each with around 235mm of steerer tube.

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Emonda sl 4

Complete bikes will be offered in both men’s and Women’s WSD models as well as H1 and H2 geometries depending on the model. If nearly 16k is a little too steep, Émondas start out at just $1649.99 for the S 4. The full line starts at the S 4 and then proceeds with the S 5, S 5 WSD, S 6, SL Frameset, SL 5, SL 5 WSD, SL 6, SL 6 WSD, SL 8, SL 8 Red, SL 8 WSD, SLR Frameset, SLR 6 (H1, H2), SLR 8 (H1, H2), SLR 9 (H1, H2, WSD), and the top dog SLR 10 (H1).

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Bike Weights (KG: LBS):

Émonda S 4 8.74 19.27
Émonda S 6 8.38 18.47
Émonda SL 6 7.39 16.29
Émonda SL 6 WSD 7.46 16.45
Émonda SL 8 7.06 15.56
Émonda SL 8 RED 6.81 15.01
Émonda SL 8 WSD 7.00 15.43
Émonda SLR 6 6.60 14.55
Émonda SLR 8 6.15 13.56
Émonda SLR 9 6.10 13.45
Émonda SLR 9 WSD 6.09 13.43
Émonda SLR 10 4.65 10.25

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Comments

Pro Bike Swap - 07/01/14 - 1:14pm

Additional details/specs here as well: http://www.probikeswap.com/2015-trek-emonda-slr/

vectorbug - 07/01/14 - 1:16pm

This should be really great for getting more people into cycling.

Frederico - 07/01/14 - 1:21pm

Me gusto muscho L’Emonda!

wako29 - 07/01/14 - 1:23pm

690g is pretty impressive when you consider that it has a seat mast cap. That RCa (and just about every other bike) runs a standard seatpost

J Train - 07/01/14 - 1:26pm

@Vectorbug Dude, the S 5 retails for just over two thousand. For that you get a full carbon frame, FULL 105 11-speed, and tubeless ready wheels. If someone wants to get into cycling without feeling like they’re already behind the “curve,” this range is a pretty good option.

CXisfun - 07/01/14 - 1:35pm

Justifying the jump from the SL frame at $1430 to the SLR frame at $4200 seems like a tough one

Jakozilla - 07/01/14 - 1:38pm

Looks like … every other bike in the showroom. (But because it’s Trek the glue and carbon yarn were put into the muffin tin to bake by skilled craftsmen.) Yawn.

Bro - 07/01/14 - 1:47pm

Did everyone forget about cannondale EVO black inc frame at 655g? Those have been out for years….

FastWayne - 07/01/14 - 1:48pm

A Ducati with a real motor same price point. My net worth logic and my tech logic says,
“Don’t compute.” $15,749.99 WTH ; p

DZ - 07/01/14 - 1:49pm

Thats all well and good for making the lightest production bike. Lets see how they hold up to a years worth of heavy riding without frame failures. No thanks!
I have a 6 yr old Litespeed Archon Ti, that is worry and CREAK free!

Edison - 07/01/14 - 1:50pm

690g which frame sise?
Does that weight include FD hanger? RD hanger & bolts? Water bottle bolts x 4pcs? Seat collar and bolts? Cable stops?

What about fork 300mm steerer?

Just trying to compare to other ultra light weight which in the market already.

jw - 07/01/14 - 1:57pm

FastWayne- exactly what i was thinking. “mass production” bicycle, albeit the flagship model, is now over $15,000. I’ll take a Panigale.

Derek - 07/01/14 - 2:04pm

@Edison

Someone posted this on weightweenies: http://i.imgur.com/t3wsP4c.png

Frame weight is without hardware.

Gunnstein - 07/01/14 - 2:04pm

Where do you attach the 2 kg lead weights you need in order to be allowed to race this thing?

Al Boneta - 07/01/14 - 2:07pm

Pretty neat

MikeC - 07/01/14 - 2:09pm

Funny how your mind can play tricks on you: here I was, thinking $16k for a bike?!? Woah! And then I looked up the price for the Emonda SLR 9, right around $8k, and for some fool reason thought, “OK, now that’s more reasonable…. Wait, no it isn’t!” Painful watching other companies do lightweight bikes and Trek seeming to not be playing that game.

pmurf - 07/01/14 - 2:12pm

say what you will about the $16K wunderbike, but the lower end models are very well priced, especially if all the frames have the ride quality TREK is promising. Correct me if I’m wrong, but with the current Madone 3.1 retailing for $1,979, that would make the Emonda S4 the cheapest carbon road bike TREK’s ever released, right? (I realize there’s a groupset difference)

TonyC - 07/01/14 - 2:17pm

Trek weighed a 56cm painted frame. Also, when you by a Trek frame, all the unique parts (seat cap, bb, hs…) are included.

Rico - 07/01/14 - 2:25pm

Tune and THM deserve more of the credit for any of these superlight bikes. The H1 geo version of the frame looks pretty good aside from that weird seatpost deal they keep using. I wish companies would get rid of ISP and the Trek version is even worse aesthetically.

Ben - 07/01/14 - 2:28pm

How about a rider weight limit? Me thinks the doctors and lawyers who pony up this kind of coin on bikes might be a bit large for the 10.

SLOBOB - 07/01/14 - 2:37pm

OK guys, here’s the deal:
Only the top end bike is the “lightest” production bike, and even that has a generous rider weight limit of 200lbs (due to the wheels) the rest of the line (with the top models sharing the same frame) have the standard 275lbs limit!
If you’re a Clydesdale, ride gravel grinders, tour the world with all your belongings, commute daily, or just don’t like it, then guess what? Don’t buy it.
By the way, I find it odd that people trash Trek for making an expensive super-bike, but not Pinarello, BMC, etc… if there wasn’t someone buying these things, they wouldn’t build them. I can’t afford a Porsche, a Tesla, or even a Corvette but others can and I still appreciate the engineering.

Daium - 07/01/14 - 2:39pm

Ok,I think we are pretty much ready to see the 2015 McLaren Tarmac priced at $15,759.99 now.

mellon - 07/01/14 - 2:46pm

I can’t wait to warranty one of these!

josh - 07/01/14 - 2:49pm

@Bro, The goal was lightest total bike. Which trek Crushed. 10.25 for the Trek, compared to 11 for the Cannondale. It doesn’t matter if you have a super light frame and have to put extra shims and cups to attach the components to the bike.

Burt - 07/01/14 - 2:55pm

Trek has cornered the market on bikes for orthopedic surgeons and professional athletes

mi ke - 07/01/14 - 2:57pm

can i get it without the red accents

Duder - 07/01/14 - 3:12pm

Whoever is naming these bikes is really reaching. Just rolls of the tongue. Like fuemonda

joseph - 07/01/14 - 3:17pm

I will take this beast instead if Trek.
http://www.canyon.com/_en/roadbikes/bike.html?b=3331

Bill - 07/01/14 - 3:37pm

Hmmmm…. Those brakes look a bit familiar. Can anyone say EE Cycleworks?

Mike - 07/01/14 - 3:58pm

Buy trek care with it and you a crash it and it doesn’t matter. No questions asked on any thing you damage or wear out. Pretty sweet.

Crohnsy - 07/01/14 - 3:59pm

Madone
Domane
Emonda

I like the anagram theme…

gibbon - 07/01/14 - 4:12pm

Should have called it Ona’med

John - 07/01/14 - 4:13pm

How long until Trek’s other road bikes are updated for DuoTrap S?

John smith - 07/01/14 - 4:25pm

I was pretty sure CANNONDALE’s evo NANO was lighter, stiffer and stronger than this bike…

Ghostt - 07/01/14 - 4:39pm

Fun fact: here in the UK Trek are offering a lifetime frame and fork guarantee on all models, plus a very good crash replacement scheme.

At least with Trek there is some backup, unlike other brands who don’t want to know (cough..Cervelo..cough)
Skurce: i’m a Trek dealer (so might be somewhat biased!)

Chader - 07/01/14 - 4:56pm

@ John smith, please show us the data comparing the two frames to validate your claims… didn’t think so.

@ Ghostt, lifetime warranties here in the US too. You can also purchase the Trek Care Plus, which cover ALL parts for replacement for ANY reason, for three years from purchase.

John smith - 07/01/14 - 5:03pm

@chader
http://roadcyclinguk.com/gear/cannondale-supersix-evo-nano-now-even-lighter-3920.html

Now before you say this is based on a website, note bike rumour is also a website. How does a reader get actual data??? Can you show me by sending me the trek data?

Nick - 07/01/14 - 5:22pm

I hope they’re paying Craig a licensing fee for his EE brake. http://www.eecycleworks.com/index.html

Seraph - 07/01/14 - 5:23pm

@John – the Cannondale Evo Nano weighed over 11 lbs. So no, it wasn’t lighter.

F Almeida - 07/01/14 - 5:25pm

Ja, they look like (less refined) EE-brakes. Hope Trek/Shimano honoured Craig’s intelectual property, his patent was still pending as far as I know…

Kovas - 07/01/14 - 5:27pm

Trek’s next carbon bike will be a touring rig, called the NOMADE…
I’m waiting for that one.

rustlemania - 07/01/14 - 5:46pm

bunch of aliases in this thread complaining about how much it cost, smh.

Ilikeicedtea - 07/01/14 - 6:29pm

Patent pending typically means no patent has been filed, but we would if we could…

Chader - 07/01/14 - 6:47pm

@John smith, weight is one variable & the Dale may well be lighter. Trek may well be wrong in their claims. I never made a claim one way or the other.

You made claims about stiffness & strength being better for the Dale. Neither of those is substantiated in the article you linked. It is merely a press release with some weight info and nothing about stiffness, strength or even ride quality.

I doubt that you know anything about those values for the Dale and nobody outside of Trek has stiffness and strength for the Emonda right now. VeloNews and others will probably get the data for both bikes, then we can have a meaningful comparison. Until then, anything else is useless speculation.

They are both probably great bikes and anyone is free to chose whatever they like. Stop acting like you know this stuff enough to make a claim that one is superior to another.

Chader - 07/01/14 - 6:50pm

@Ilikeicedtea, Patent Pending means they have filed the paperwork with the USPTO, but the patent has not been issued or denied.

They often take several years from the point of filing before they get approved or denied. At the point of filing, their idea is protected based on that date assuming the patent is approved.

jimmythefly - 07/01/14 - 6:50pm

LOL at you guys comparing these brakes to EE brakes. Try WTB lever link, and the idea is probably older than that even.

jimmythefly - 07/01/14 - 6:54pm

Yeah. Pat. Pending means paperwork is filed, but it takes a while to go through the system.

So even if you know your design will not be judged patentable, it’s still worth filing the paperwork because you’ll have several years to sell and market you doodad with a nice little “pat. pending” text in the ad copy. And by the time your patent is rejected it won’t matter.

Jeff - 07/01/14 - 6:56pm

Did anyone notice that the translation of Emonda is prune. Yet another lack of creativity on Trek’s part…

Ilikeicedtea - 07/01/14 - 7:29pm

Here, in the real world, “patent pending” is used all of the time when it shouldn’t be used “legally”.

In fantasy land, yeah, one needs to have filed a patent application.

velonut - 07/01/14 - 7:31pm

See: engineering – improving prior art.. Using a concept from the 90s to provide adjustable leverage to a proprietary system, smart. When’s the last time we saw disruptive innovation in the bike industry?

Max - 07/01/14 - 7:58pm

How is this positioned against the Madone?

If you have the same amount of money to spend, which would you buy and why?

Is the Madone the Aero and the Emonda a lighter weight for climbing?

Dr. Sartorious - 07/01/14 - 8:23pm

@Duder

I’m with you. These are the most horribly named bikes in the industry. Might as well name it Nova and sell it in Mexico.

biker - 07/01/14 - 9:37pm

Guess all the comment’s are from the people that work at Specialized, Giant, Scott, Cannondale, Cervelo, etc…. Great bike Trek. Also it is great that the SLR is still MADE IN THE USA. NONE OF THE LARGE BRANDS CAN SAY THAT. Also would like to see these other brands print the weights of there models.

Velo - 07/01/14 - 10:07pm

Yeah, all manufacturers should list the weights of the bikes!
Good job, Trek and Scott! Hello Giant? Hello Cannondale?

What? - 07/01/14 - 10:14pm

It would help if the companies that posted their weights were accurate, but they ARE NOT! Go into any shop and weigh one and be amazed how it is always heavier then the claimed weight. Companies that post weights are trying to scam customers with flawed numbers.

Dilbert - 07/01/14 - 10:16pm

Looks like a well thought out bike. Although if I had the money I would choose the Stevens Comet SL, it is 200 grams heavier but has proper drivetrain. Di2!!

Daniel - 07/01/14 - 10:16pm

So spend 15k on a bike with no disc brakes. Wait for 2016. The light bike catagorey at this point is dead. How about a 2k bike at 16lbs and a 15lb bike for 3k.

Daniel - 07/01/14 - 10:35pm

Be just like Lance. Light in the pockets.

goridebikes - 07/01/14 - 10:53pm

evo nano FRAME is lighter, and if it was being built with the same spec, it would be lighter – instead they build with 9000, which is much more reliable/better performing drivetrain, and with reliable made in US ENVE cockpit, wheels instead of exotic stuff straight out of weight weenies… Also at a $2k price savings…

Anyways… this bike looks boring, and it’s not the lightest frameset out there, nor would I consider anything about the Tune wheelset to be “production”

That being said… this is pretty f*ing baller. Just wish it had a paint job to match the nastiness…

RCa for the win.

trekdealer - 07/01/14 - 10:55pm

@What? I am a Trek dealer and the bikes we have gotten have come in under the posted weights. We did only get a 54 and 56cm .

trekdealer - 07/01/14 - 10:58pm

The other nice thing about these new Treks is that they use the full group (except brakes on the SLR 10). Even the chain and cassette is the correct level Shimano part. Non of this no name brakes or KMC chains. Plus no Fix Something Always (FSA) cranks.

Tomi - 07/02/14 - 7:31am

Is it 2007 again ?

John smith - 07/02/14 - 8:05am

@chader

Maybe you should practice what you preach

John smith - 07/02/14 - 8:08am

@big cow
I agree with you. All big name brands do nice bikes. This is no exception. Time for a beer

Chader - 07/02/14 - 9:06am

@John smith

LOL. I’m not the one making claims that I can’t back up with data or facts, you are.

I’m excited about a new bike and dealing with people like you who come in here trying to knock it down before you even know enough about it to make an accurate judgement.

Duke249 - 07/02/14 - 9:22am

This bicycle is an enigma. Its basically an improvement on the old (2012) Madone. So why develop the new Madone in the first place and then come out with this? Heck, it even reverts back to the old (2012) Madone geometry. So what does this indicate? To me it really appears to be an admission that the current Madone was a screw up, so they’re going back to “Plan B” and adopting what was an alternate “new and improved” from the 2013 development cycle.

Dr. Sartorious - 07/02/14 - 11:27am

@biker

What do I care if the frame was made in the USA, but nearly every other component was made in a sweat shop in Asia, where the workers are not wearing masks as they grind away carbon fiber components. That’s like ordering the #4 meal at McDonald’s then vindicating the calorie explosion with a Diet Coke.

“Oooh, look at my American bike! Ignore all the fancy German carbon components, Japanese drivetrain, French saddle. Other than that, ‘MERICA! Love it or leave it!”

MeroMasta - 07/02/14 - 12:00pm

@Dr. Sartorious: Nobody cares that you don’t care.

The fact of the matter is that if some people actually care that the frame was made in the USA, then it’s a valid opinion. It’s more than the other big “american” bike brands can say.

And so what if people want to, as you put it, vindicate the calorie explosion with a diet coke. It’s their life and their decision.

K11 - 07/02/14 - 1:43pm

@MeroMasta, i’m with you.

@dr sartorious. the frame is the core of the bike, that’s all i need to say to you.

A company’s product should be made in its native homeland. I laugh at all you riders all geeked up on this asian made high end stuff saying – “oh the quality is awesome or the quality is just as good if it was made in the USA or if whatever country’s brand is manufacturing in asia” You all are a bunch of jokers. Would you buy a premium german car if it was made anywhere but germany, even though the quality was just as good/ identical? vs designed AND manufactured in germany by germans?

Y’all buying this high end stuff from american/german/italian companies manufacturing in asia, barking about “designed in”, you make me laugh.

Jon Palmer - 07/02/14 - 1:44pm

Trek is all like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMUDVMiITOU

Psi Squared - 07/02/14 - 2:56pm

All the people getting verklempt over a bike not made in its company’s “homeland” make me laugh. The idea that is a universal concern or should be is ridiculous. You seem confused about what personal preference is all about.

Aaron - 07/02/14 - 6:49pm

@psi squared. others feel the way K11 does, i certainly wouldn’t buy a harley made in asia, or mexico, or india…i don’t care if it was “designed and tested” in milwaukee and the quality was identical, that’s not really the point.

John - 07/03/14 - 1:08am

@Jeff: Translation fail. The French verb émonder means to trim. The French noun for a dried plum is le pruneau. The word prune is only a homonym (two words spelled the same with different meanings) in English.

Psi Squared - 07/03/14 - 1:51am

@Aaron. That’s likely true. Just don’t confuse where a product is made with any fact about product quality. There are likely at least as many people that aren’t concerned about such things. Being upset or not about where a product is designed and made, or where the company that makes that product is located is purely a matter of preference and/or politics. That’s all.

Dougfresh - 07/03/14 - 9:04am

Wow Trek, where’s your integrity? Will all their resources they can’t do their own design work, but have to rip off the little guy. This is the direct mount EE brake that is set to release on the Parlee ESX.

Johnny Lignite - 07/03/14 - 11:47am

How about a 14 lb. STEEL framed Sram Red 10 spd bike with clincher wheels that is a climbing machine?! 55cm frame comes in at under 2.75 lbs. No joke. check it out. http://www.rodbikes.com/catalog/outlaw/outlaw-main.html

Nooge - 07/03/14 - 12:41pm

@k11 a quick google search will tell you Audi and BMW sell cars in US that were built in Brazil, China and USA. So you are full of it.

And really all anyone should be concerned about is not where something is built but the quality, how the workers are treated and whether or not money is going to people violating human rights. Aside from that, it’s just personal preference.

Nooge - 07/03/14 - 12:50pm

Also, it’s arrogant to think that there’s some fundamental reason that Germans, Italians or Americans are better at designing or manufacturing things than anyone else. Or even that they employ only people native to that country. The success of companies from certain countries is mostly due to historical circumstance. Nobody has a monopoly on intelligence or creativity. I work in the auto industry and I can tell you the top researchers and engineers are racially and culturally diverse. The bulk of employees are usually from the “mother country”, but they have little influence to the core of the product.

K11 - 07/03/14 - 2:10pm

@Nooge. i find it fascinating that if i don’t leave a super detailed comment, that somebody chimes in letting me know about this or that brand and where it is made other than the companies country of origin.
i said premium german car, i never said bmw or any other brands for that matter. i am well aware of what you “thought” you were trying to educate me on, but i already was and am aware. thanks bro. guess i’m not full of it?

K11 - 07/03/14 - 2:18pm

@Nooge. i am also well aware of which carbon frames are made in house by trek and which ones are not. not all their carbon is made here, in fact most is made overseas. But at the very least, their top road frames are, for now, made waterloo, USA.

Aaron - 07/03/14 - 2:28pm

@psi squared. my comment didn’t say anything about quality and neither did @K11′s.

His comment he was talking about a german brand (he was saying a car, but it could be anything really) If said german company’s product was being made elsewhere or in germany and wether to buy it. as he said- “even though the quality was just as good or identical?”

Lee R. - 07/03/14 - 11:35pm

The new Emonda frame design looks a lot like the max-min frame design of the old LeMond bikes Trek used to make. Wait a minute! If you drop the “L” in LeMond and add an “A” at the end, you have Emonda! Hmmm, “L” and “A”…. L. A., isn’t that the initials of someone else that used to be associated with Trek?

Nooge - 07/04/14 - 12:39am

@K11 You said “You all are a bunch of jokers. Would you buy a premium german car if it was made anywhere but germany, even though the quality was just as good/ identical? vs designed AND manufactured in germany by germans?”

The entire BMW X series, including the $93k X6 M, are ONLY made on the US and exported elsewhere, including Germany. How can you not see your statement does not match reality?

Again, your point about it mattering what nationality manufactures it is absurd. See my previous comments. As well as the fact that most of those quality processes the Germans use were invented by the Japanese, who were taught the principles of quality by Deming, an American.

Mark A - 07/08/14 - 2:36pm

Duke249 I think you nailed it.

Except for a few bits and pieces, the SL is the same as my 2012 5 series.

And all this fuss over the SLR’s frame weight, a whopping 35g lighter than the Madone? If ‘aero’ was such an advantage it would seem like a paltry price to pay. Like you said, I think the latest Madone is/was a commercial flop and Trek is bowing out gracefully.

Mindless - 07/10/14 - 10:15am

Old technology.

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