Kickstarter: The Infinity Pedal Revolutionizes Clipping In

The Infinity Pedal

The Infinity Pedal was designed to make clipping in easy whether smashing up technical hill climbs or taking off from a green light. The majority of clip pedals on the market today need to be oriented before engaging, but the round shape of the Infinity Pedal offers infinite engagement positions. Infinite Pedal Clip

The self guiding pedal can also be engaged without looking down to properly orient the pedal, and the clip is slim enough that it should sit flush with the majority of shoes.

The Infinite Pedal Weight

In it it’s current form factor, weight is a very respectable 236 gms, but  a titanium version would shave even more weight.

A pledge of $129 will get you a set of Mobius Infinity Pedals in either black, red, green, or yellow. For an additional $60 you can pick up a custom engraved set in Purple, plus a T-shirt and water bottle.

Get your set here. They Kickstarter campaign has 54 days left and has currently reached $21k of it’s $85,000 goal.

Comments

Greg - 03/07/14 - 9:09am

Always good to see another option available, like most things pedals take practice. Until I find something that works better I will stick with my old Time atacs. Great looking design, good luck.

MaLóL - 03/07/14 - 9:14am

Awesome concept!! It still has some open remarks like angle of free float, number of bearings included and sealing of those bearings, cleat duration and cleat replacement price, cleat material. Ease of service.

It also seems like it could self unclip by tilting the foot and resting your weight in the pedal, not a good thing. Anyways, I would love to test them. Weight with ti spindle must be uber light.

Ryan Hamm - 03/07/14 - 9:14am

Yes, I like it too. I’d like to se some options with some more foot supports.

Aaron - 03/07/14 - 9:16am

I agree on the ATACs. The problem with new pedals if your work fine and you have mulitiple bikes, swiching out pedals is rather expensive.

DGWW - 03/07/14 - 9:22am

Bikerumor. Pledge, get a pair and post a test!

Ultraclyde - 03/07/14 - 9:28am

I get the same no-look engagement out of my eggbeaters and they are nearly mud-proof, even in Georgia red clay. These are interesting but I suspect thick mud would be a major hindrance. I think the forward motion required for engagement might be an issue as well. It is great to see people thinking differently about the same old items though.

Offrhodes - 03/07/14 - 9:30am

Why is he so bad at getting into “standard” clipless pedals?

Bog - 03/07/14 - 9:49am

Sweet Hayzeus, if he has that much trouble with crank brothers pedals I don’t think we can’t trust to design his own pedals!

Also, is that a Philips head screw holding it together?! Yikes.

Luiggi - 03/07/14 - 10:03am

Hey, I see you featured them! Good for you guys! However, you MUST note that the author features a Titanium version, and it has an open pledge for it. It will take 299 bucks out of your pocket.

@Bog: I believe the Phillips screw was only featured in the prototypes. The final version will have an Allen screw.

Ryan - 03/07/14 - 10:12am

I think this is great—a brilliant new solution.

Has the concern about mudpack in the end cavities come up? I could see losing depth of hold.

Menga - 03/07/14 - 10:16am

It doesn’t seem to be very secure. Also it has forward-backward play between the shoe and the pedal. And it has a very small float. I’m not sure if it’s a good design.

Doug B - 03/07/14 - 10:25am

Like the idea, but can see people clipping into the springs. Float would increase as the cleats wear in and for mtb the no platform design will put some off, even eggbeaters have something to stand on.

tw - 03/07/14 - 10:30am

Is this better than a speedplay frog?

off-roadie - 03/07/14 - 10:34am

I don’t know that this will be any easier to clip into, but I also don’t find clipping in the be a problem. I do think it is a really interesting idea and love seeing new options. I wish I could try it before dropping $130…

Charlie w - 03/07/14 - 10:46am

Like Doug b said no platform is kind of scary, guess it’d be fine on fire road and flows single track, I can’t see riding a rocky technical sections.
I like new ideas.

richard cranium - 03/07/14 - 10:48am

I ride flat pedals.

saddlesore - 03/07/14 - 10:51am

@Ryan totally agree! Not sure how the cavity can clear gunk the first time you step in mud.

justwannaride - 03/07/14 - 10:52am

Interesting.
They remind me a bit of an inverted version of the long gone M2Racer Orb pedal system. Did anyone here ever ride those?

Andre - 03/07/14 - 10:54am

Got yourself a new fan!

david - 03/07/14 - 11:12am

The main concern I have for this is bending the tabs on the cleats in rocky terrain. Here in Arizona I can make a cleat look like a rabid squirrel with a ball peen hammer went all Joe Pesci on it with a few hours of riding it. The combination of granite plus weight plus hike a bikes and such add up to serious abuse for cleats.

However these would be great on the road and places less rocky and with less rabid squirrels.

nam - 03/07/14 - 11:17am

hate to be the mechanic that has to test ride a bike with these

patrik - 03/07/14 - 11:31am

Needs to weight less then the Egg Beater 11 to get action from me. Also, once you’re used to a pedal, there’s no need to look down to orient; it just happens.

bazookasean - 03/07/14 - 11:52am

The engagement rollers appear to be brass. If they are, they will wear out much faster than the steel cleat. That seems to be the wrong way around. It also seems that side load such as a very bumpy corner, an off camber landing, or heavy spinting could open the spring and release the cleat. That literally happens in his video when he lands hard.

MaLóL - 03/07/14 - 12:30pm

@tw There is nothing in the world better than speedplay frog. No spring, lightweight, free float, stainless steel durable cleat, good triple bearings, grease port. Speedplay frog are the great un-know pedal system.

zen - 03/07/14 - 12:50pm

Those things are going to clog up at the first hint of dirt mixed with water.
- The back portion of the cleat is a great mud retention mechanism. The pedal rollers won’t engage the tabs if the rollers can’t meet the tabs due to mud clogging the cleat.
– A little bit of mud in the pedal seems like it would easily prevent the spring from compressing enough to engage the the cleat tabs.

Of course, that’s just my opinion, and I could be wrong.

Michael - 03/07/14 - 1:19pm

Very clever idea, and I could see it working well on the road or an ultralight xc build or similar, but I dont think I could ever run it on my mtb. Rock strikes, aiming your feet through turns, and side loads from cornering all seem like they could cause pre-release.

I also really did not like how the video was making it look like an impossible task to clip into any other form of pedal. Felt like an infomercial for some useless kitchen gadget. “Have you ever tried to crack an egg before!? Impssible and messy!! Not Anymore thanks to the chefomatic spd-eggbeater crackerlacker!!!!”

@MaLoL, I ran a pair of frogs for about two years, but never really fell completely in love with them. SPD’s are still my favorite. The frogs feel like you are standing ontop of a cylinder of ice or a ball bearing or something. Slippery and absolutely no centering, and no indication of how far you can rotate before release, which just does not work as effectively with the type of trails and riding I do. They are a beautifully simple and effective pedal though and great for more xc-race style riding.

john - 03/07/14 - 1:25pm

@bazookasean – The pedal rollers appear to be heat treated stainless.
@david – I agree. the cleat would probably hold up better if it were forged (like a speedplay frog cleat)

All in all a cool concept. good job Infinity!

Michael - 03/07/14 - 1:30pm

I also just realized that if you dropped your heels at all, you are going to unclip.
the design of the cleat has the camfer on the retention tabs going forward and backward. You clip in by sliding your foot forward, or angling your toes down when you push down. The metal bracket at the back of the cleat prevents you from extending past the engagement point, but if you drop your heels, or pull backwards there is nothing to prevent you from unclipping. So in other words, it only stays engaged when you pull up, or push forward

Now that sucks

Topmounter - 03/07/14 - 1:35pm

I’ve never had any trouble clipping into my SPD’s… at least not since I wore out my 737′s.

These pedals look cool, but I’m not seeing any obvious advantage over other designs.

forumengineersunite - 03/07/14 - 1:37pm

@Michael, You sound like a rill smart guy. I’m assumning you didn’t just draw this conclusion from reading the little article above and looking at the pretty pictures. You posted that comment with so much confidence, you clearly have ridden many miles on these pedals and have experienced this situation firsthand. So please, indulge us further with your in-depth and extensive rider review.

Michael - 03/07/14 - 2:08pm

I’ve obviously never ridden in them since they are in kickstarter, and would love to have my doubts be disproven by someone who has ridden in them, or by the designer. I am just drawing conclusions from the pretty pictures and the cute video.
Did you happen by any chance to look at those pretty pictures, or watch the cute video as well? He is riding with his toes pointed down in pretty much every segment, and he engages them with his toes pointed down.
It does not take a lot to come to this conclusion, false as I genuinely hope it is, by looking at the cleat design, and the area on the pedal where it interfaces and engages the cleat.

Jerome - 03/07/14 - 2:09pm

Mmmmhhh, not enough support IMO. Would need a “platform” version with more support (at least the same surface as a Time ATAC).

ccarl674 - 03/07/14 - 2:26pm

Looks very cool.
But have three doubts:

- Getting stabbed by the pedal during a crash
- How is it going to work in MUD? Once the mud piles up in the cleat, there is no way to get out.
Mud will get stack to the actual pedal as well, besides being very slippery.

McClain - 03/07/14 - 2:36pm

In the second-to-last picture:

would the spring tension be more even across the “rollers” if there was an extra ring with a flattened edge, such that the spring touches the rollers all the way around?

Anyways I think this is a cool idea and worth exploring. With some refinements I think it could be a legit pedal option.

i - 03/07/14 - 2:57pm

Love to see new ideas, and this is kind of cool in it’s own way. There is a very infomercial like overstatement of problems with existing designs though. I don’t need to look at my pedals to get into them, and I don’t remember ever consciously thinking about rotating them; I just stomp on them and wiggle my foot till I feel the click. it doesn’t look like clipping into these is going to be any different.

My main concern is what happens when the cleats wear out and the kickstarter campaign is over but they haven’t gone into production (i.e., replacement cleats aren’t available).

dirtal - 03/07/14 - 4:21pm

ive been trying to use SPDs since the mid 90s. I have never been able to clip in them. I can now finally replace all four pairs I have currently. Yes, Im being facetious

Ralphy - 03/07/14 - 4:29pm

@patrik they’re selling a new style of pedal and trying to get people to buy into it. There’s no way they’re going to start out pushing a 173g pedal – it would either be very unsafe or very expensive.

lmwong - 03/07/14 - 5:59pm

I looked at this and thought, “Oh the Aerolite pedal is back!…wait a minute”.

http://www.aerolitepedals.com/

Frank - 03/07/14 - 6:19pm

I agree with most of what Michael said. There are a lot of clever ideas here, but the whole of the product is half-baked. It’s clear that the design hasn’t been tested much and that the designer has little experience with the other pedals that are on the market.

The round profile is elegant, and potentially saves a bit of of weight. It also allows you to clip in from a greater range of vertical angles, but the benefit of this is questionable to anyone with experience with any of the more popular MTB pedal systems out there.

The round profile has several significant disadvantages also. The contact area of the cleat interface is limited by the diameter of the rollers. This makes for a smaller target when clipping in, and requiring a more precise foot angle (horizontal/perpendicular to axle) in order to engage. …something likely to be very noticeable, because the design lacks any self-centering engagement feature. Similarly, the smaller interface means faster wear on both the cleat and the pedal.

A similar design with a 4-sided, square engagement pieces in place of the round rollers would allow for a much larger interface contact area, allowing for a greater adjustment of float, wider range of engagement and longer wear.

This would still have the problem of a lack of self-centering though. It is really much better to have a smaller cleat poking into the middle of a spring trap – the way all of the mainstream clipless pedal systems work – because it allows you to easily add self-centering features to guide the cleat into the pedal. Most pedals offer a “safe clip-in target” that is many times the size of the cleat.

You could add similar centering features to the Infinity design by beveling the edges of the rollers, but this can only increase the size of the clip-in target by the size of the bevel – a few millimeters at most. With this design, the size of the clip-in target will always be limited by the size of the cleat, and can only be increased by shrinking the pedal interface and exacerbating the problems outlined above.

zeb - 03/08/14 - 2:18am

I dont understand how its self-guiding. I looks like you have to line it up pretty well for it to slide into place… not to mention it looks like pressing straight down would be hard. For the road i don’t think it can beat speed plays ease of entry. And to be honest, it looks harder than spd. and from what it looks like, float would only be a function of the spring being compressed, meaning that float would be very center-biased. I do love the look though, just have my doubts.

EmilMP - 03/08/14 - 5:14am

A couple of very light pedals these remind me of:
M2Racer http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/m2-squared-racer/#.Uxrqy-d5PJ4
Ultralite http://gearjunkie.com/ultralite-sports-lightest-clipless-bike-pedal

K11 - 03/08/14 - 9:07am

i’ve never had a problem orienting my pedals, so i’ll stick with my atacs.
Egg beater fans may be into this, but it will be hard to win those people over.

dante - 03/08/14 - 9:13am

I’m with everyone on how small that “platform” is. I mean, you are on cylinders, so the surface contact would be quite small I would think. Clipping in on steep, technical, uphill terrain is a PIA even for the most seasoned rider and I usually tell beginners to just get pedaling to gain momentum, then clip in.

Great to see another alternative though, I can see where this would appeal to commuters and urban riders who are constantly putting a foot down.

The Goats - 03/08/14 - 8:02pm

Real nice take on a solution!

Interested to see if the cleats are lower profile than SPD and might not touch ground when walking. Also look like they might lead to more comfortable set up for walking. Could be a better bet for round town set up.

Goats

Mac - 03/10/14 - 4:36am

I just hope it works better than the M2 Racer Ti Pedal!

Jeff - 03/16/14 - 7:52pm

Is that anodized aluminum? Wouldn’t the pedal wear out versus the cleat? Are they adjustable?

Nsxtc - 03/17/14 - 2:56am

I’m w Michael…I heal down a lot on decends and looking at that pretty picture, I don’t see how it’ll keep my feet from sliding off

Nsxtc - 03/17/14 - 2:57am

I’m w Michael…I heal down a lot on decends and looking at that pretty picture, I don’t see how it’ll keep my feet from sliding off. Also as some has pointed out, mud clearing and platform is a concern. I like the out of box thinking though.

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