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Scurra Hard Enduro to return with version 2.0 of their wild Trelever suspension?

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Photos of v.2.0 courtesy of Scurra

Who can forget the wild looking Scurra Hard Enduro? It’s been three years since we first caught a glimpse of the wild looking bike at Interbike 2013, but by the looks of things, Scurra is still working to perfect their Trelever suspension. Taking to facebook with news of a version 2.0 with completely redesigned suspension, Scurra says that the newest version could be up and running soon…

Named for the joker, Scurra’s mountain bike utilizes a wild looking suspension platform that is said to save the rider up to 15% of their total energy output compared to a normal suspended bike. It also allows for a 7″ travel full suspension bike with 29″ wheels. However, on version 2.0 if you look closely, you’ll see a 27.5″ wheel out back mated to a 29″ front.

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You’ll also notice the differences in supsension compared to the blue and pink bike that was shown at Interbike above. The Trelever fork has been almost flipped around with the brake caliper now facing forward rather than backwards. The rear suspension has also been updated with a new lower link that starts in front of the bottom bracket. The design still uses two rear shocks (one for the front and one for the rear suspension.

No other details are given other than the fact that the bike will soon be part of a crowd funding campaign to get it produced. Let’s just hope this one is a bit lighter than version 1.o…

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Matt
Matt
7 years ago

I bet that thing is super light.

Allan
Allan
7 years ago
Reply to  Matt

LOL!

Chris
Chris
7 years ago

The 80’s called. It would like its soundtrack back.

Allan
Allan
7 years ago
Reply to  Chris

Double LOL!

Matt
Matt
7 years ago

Seems like Austrians got the same disease that Germans have for some time now. Complexity.

atlbikeshop
7 years ago

One of the craziest looking bikes I have ever seen.

Ol'shel'
Ol'shel'
7 years ago

I’m sure this crowd will heap universal praise on it… but isn’t life more fun WITH the freaks?

I do wonder how a rear shock will handle front suspension. Can it be supple enough to not punish your hands? Out back, a shock is carrying 60+% of the mass, with impacts cushioned somewhat by the rider’s legs and arse, but the hands…

Tommy Rodgers
7 years ago
Reply to  Ol'shel'

One air seal’s drag to overcome vs. two, plus a higher leverage ratio (rear shocks are usually leveraged 3-3.5/1 vs. 1/1 with a fork) likely means far more supple, not less. Fork performance has lagged behind rear suspension performance for quite some time, in part due to these reasons…

Tim
Tim
7 years ago
Reply to  Tommy Rodgers

Unsprung weight on the fork has got to be very high.

traildog
traildog
7 years ago
Reply to  Tommy Rodgers

going for full drunk pedantic here but please, most shocks are leveraged at 2.5, 3 is high, 3.5 is high a.f. But yeah fully agree leverage ratio could make it quite supple if done right.

Ol'shel'
Ol'shel'
7 years ago
Reply to  Tommy Rodgers

What air fork has air seals in both legs?

Now consider the seals required to contain 3-3.5 x the psi…

Dunno, but I’ve felt air forks that have very little stiction, and no air shocks that are that supple.

JNH
JNH
7 years ago
Reply to  Ol'shel'

The old Whyte Preston was brilliantly comfy and really nice to ride. No binding under brakes, no dive, enormous amounts of front grip. The real issue is the balance between weight, flex, clearance and maintenance. As nice as it was the Preston was quite heavy for a 100mm travel xc bike and needed a long stem to clear the fork.
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They need to get a couple of these things to testers, provided it’s not a concrete block there’s a market for bikes like this, albeit a small one.

Tim
Tim
7 years ago

There’s a famous psychological experiment where a person in a monkey suit is sent onto a basketball court in the middle of a hotly contested match. No one really notices the interloper because (s)he lies so far outside the realm of expectation. The same thing nearly happened with this bright red, deeply odd bike- I scrolled right past it several times before finally noticing it.

Flatbiller
Flatbiller
7 years ago
Reply to  Tim
Pete
Pete
7 years ago

Rube Goldberg alive & well…

dante
dante
7 years ago

Mechanics rejoice!

Robert Heideman
Robert Heideman
7 years ago

for when you want cross country bike capability with down hill bike weight!

the biz
the biz
7 years ago

just do whatever and make up the story later

the biz
the biz
7 years ago

see also: tall bikes, 36ers

Aaron
Aaron
7 years ago

With the weight of this bike you’ll need that additional 15% efficiency.

It is cool that people think out side the norms.

Noel Smith
7 years ago

Not sure it has enough pivot points

transgerald
transgerald
7 years ago

why

Johnny Chicken Bones
Johnny Chicken Bones
7 years ago

Interesting video but I only really clicked this page to read BR’s insane comments. Come on guys! All we have to far is leverage issues and the usual Jones bike slam.
Can’t there be something more cutting out there?

Flatbiller
Flatbiller
7 years ago

C’mon man, you gotta admit a Jones is all form and no function (that isn’t already duplicated in many other bikes that don’t scream “Look at me and my obscure bike brand!”).

Veganpotter
Veganpotter
7 years ago

15% more efficient…only 40% heavier

dustytires
7 years ago

Come on, this thing is AWESOME! Do I want to ride one? maybe maybe not, but it’s a joy to look at none the less. I wish I could buy these fringe bikes and make a museum of the progressive thinkers over the years.. Not just the hyper bendy shit that shows up on hardtails for the sake of ‘art’, no, this bikes design crew and others before it are truly trying to fix problems they perceive with current bikes. How do you think we got very thin flat pedals and single rings and wide rims and dropper posts, bolt on grips, hell, the mountain bike itself! it all started with some riders saying to themselves they can make it better. Viva la progressive madness!

Tim
Tim
7 years ago
Reply to  dustytires

Sure innovation requires comfort with weirdness, but this thing I am pretty sure is a future dead branch.

Chasejj
Chasejj
7 years ago

I really like it.

Mery Project Scurra
7 years ago
Reply to  Chasejj

we appreciate it very much 🙂

Drew Diller
7 years ago

I desire suspension where the shock units are non-proprietary and can be exchanged front and rear, and exchanged simply from bike to workbench.

This approach is one way of satisfying that desire.

I hope they make a lot of money.

Mery Project Scurra
7 years ago
Reply to  Drew Diller

We appreciate your positive feedback, if you are interested check out our new webpage: http://www.scurra.eu

Morgan
Morgan
7 years ago

Really ??? Do we really need something like …… that ??? Please.

Mery Project Scurra
7 years ago
Reply to  Morgan

We hope there will be people who will like our innovative idea.

Alex
Alex
7 years ago

I am trying to be constructive here – BR is a good forum for people who know bikes to offer criticism (constructive or not) to new ideas. The Achilles’s Heel of this design will be the design of the four pivots in the fork – if I think about turning this bike (which would otherwise follow physics and prefer to go in a straight line), it seem like any play in the pivots would have to wind up first (which may be just a degree or two) before the steering input actually cause the lower end of the fork to respond. If that can be made a non-issue, there will be some takers for this design, just as there were/are for Lefties, Pro-Flex/K2 linkage forks, AMP forks, and probably a few more. We’d all still have leather hairnets, wool shorts and toe clips if it weren’t for people trying to improve on what they already know to be functional.

Mecanico do Paladar
Mecanico do Paladar
7 years ago
Reply to  Alex

Have you ever ride a bike with a lefty?

Mike
Mike
7 years ago
Reply to  Alex

Throwing lefties in with the pro-flex and AMP forks seems a bit wide of the mark. I’ve had a couple lefties and both a fox f29 and a RS reba. The lefties are just as good as the fox and RS offerings IMHO. I don’t get the hate for lefties, at least for XC. I can’t speak to real downhill or “trail” use, but I’m pretty hard/aggressive for XC and the lefties have been good to me.

I’m curious what the general criticism of the left design is? Other than proprietary parts that is.

Bay Area Biker
Bay Area Biker
7 years ago
Reply to  Mike

It looks weird which means it probably rides weird.

Lefties are expensive and who would want to pay a ton for a weird fork they think they won’t like?

To get a good deal on one, you have to buy a Cannondale, but thats hard to do when you’re so hyped up on Santa Cruz and Specialized.

You’ll also get picked on in you’re riding group for being the only one with a Lefty.

BTW, I happen to ride and love the 160mm Lefty Max. Ive also worked at a Cannondale retailer for the past 10 years and have heard all these things from the horse’s mouth.

Chasejj
Chasejj
7 years ago
Reply to  Mike

Lefty’s take a beating because they exist only for marketing/branding purposes.
There is no sound logical reason for the Lefty to exist. The only argument would be if it was a significantly faster wheel swap in some race situation where every second was critical.
Any defense of the design is not factually based.
Poseur hardware.

Tim
Tim
7 years ago
Reply to  Chasejj

Lefties are around a pound lighter than conventional forks with the same travel, while also being stiffer, right? Seem like pretty decent arguments to me. The act of calling someone a “poseur” itself smacks of an attachment to “correct” ideas of “fashion”. FWIW, I have seen some pretty talented riders on Lefties, riders who passes me up in races.

Mecanico do Paladar
Mecanico do Paladar
7 years ago
Reply to  Chasejj

Poseur hardware! Oh well!
Do you have a list of that “Poseur hardware”?

David Guerra
7 years ago
Reply to  Chasejj

Wheel swap is actually a b*tch because the brake caliper must be removed.
Other than that, it is a very logical design due to the rigidity of the square stanction tubes, which also allows a ligther weight as already mentioned.

Andy
Andy
7 years ago

This looks really cool but entirely impractical. More weight and complexity results in a bike that’s just not fun to ride regardless of the engineering mastery going on. It looks to me like they’ve carried over motorcycle suspension designs and forgot about the fact that human legs deliver a puny amount of power to move so much mass and really feel the benefits is the design.

Mery Project Scurra
7 years ago

If you want to find more information about Scurra :2, just check out our newly launched webpage: http://www.scurra.eu !

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