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2013 Parlee TTi Triathlon Aero Bike – An Alternate Look at Aerodynamics

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Anyone trying to keep tabs on what’s the most aerodynamic bike these days is likely chasing a fools errand. There’s a lot of science being applied to different brands, tube shapes and bike/wheel/rider “systems”. That said, we’ve ridden some aero bikes and wheels, and they do make a difference. Whether we could honestly tell much improvement from one to the other is unlikely, not just because of our own perceptions, but because conditions are never identical from one ride to the next and our fitness levels are always fluctuating.

That said, it’s always an interesting discussion to see the science and technology behind bicycle aerodynamics, and Parlee is no stranger to making things go faster through a fluid…which is, after all, what air really is. His latest iteration of the TTi, which gets a few updates to the layup and cable/wire routing for 2013, takes a bit different approach than some of his competitors…

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Bob Parlee, who got his start building racing boats, used various low-drag NACA sections in combination with his own low-speed sections that are different than “high lift” shapes used elsewhere. A “high lift” shape is a long, skinny tear drop shape that works well on airplanes and boats where you can change the angle of the wing section. On a bike, such a long shape would have to be fixed, which would cause it to “stall”, or create a lot of drag.

On a bike, you’d want a shorter cord length (the distance from leading to trailing edge, generally limited to 80mm due to UCI regulations), fatter tear drop shape with the maximum thickness set farther back, about 45% of the way back, than on a high-lift application, where it would be 30%-35% of the way back. The shape of the trailing edge also tends to be a little fuller with more shape to them, which makes the air want to stay attached as it wraps around the tube, which reduces turbulence, and thus drag. The technical term is that it’s less critical, meaning they work better at higher yaw (crosswind) angles.

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Tests are done with competing bikes using the same components and wheels to keep things even. If you recall from recent aero wheel introductions, a big selling point is the ability to perform better in a crosswind, with some parts claiming to reduce drag even to the point of having negative drag at certain yaw angles. The Parlee TTi doesn’t quite get into negative numbers, but its aerodynamics do improve up to about 5º.

The NACA shapes, by the way, are a range of shapes categorized by the National Advisory Committee for Aeronautics. Mavic used two of them on their new Cosmic CXR80 wheels, too.

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The fork has evolved quite a bit over the years, the latest iteration spaces the legs and crown wider -farther from the wheel and tire- than what’s typically seen. Parlee says this opens it up and lets the air split better around them, creating less overall turbulence. They’ve tested their bike in the wind tunnel with this fork and a narrower fork and measured about a 5% to 7% improvement from this design.

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The frame is mechanical and electronic ready and uses TRP’s aero mini-V brakes.

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Psi Squared
Psi Squared
11 years ago

Note that NACA “organized” but doesn’t organize anymore because NACA hasn’t been in existence since its mission was changed and it became NASA in 1958. Their airfoil naming conventions specify how to define airfoils according to 5 different series: 4. 5. 6. 7. and 8 digit series.

curious
curious
11 years ago

Reminds me of the old quote from Gerard Vroomen, that he is happy to be second in all of his competitors wind tunnel tests.

Of course, one wonders how they normalized sizes(Parlee uses drastically different stack/reach ratios), what brakes were put on the P4, if the P4 got its integrated bottle(makes a difference at higher yaw) and the fact that a 2013 Parlee model is being compared to Cervelo’s 2009 P4…

Tom Mosby
Tom Mosby
11 years ago

To say nothing of the P5…

Puzzled
Puzzled
11 years ago

No doubt there is a difference in aerodynamic efficiency when comparing a ‘standard’ road frame and an aerodynamic ‘aero’ frame. But think we get wrapped-around-the-axle with some of these comparissons.

The above comparison shows difference of 100gram at 0° and just over 200grams at 15° yaw from best—worst. Is this difference really noticeable to the average rider ?? No. If you are a professional competing at the highest levels it is worth noting…but otherwise its more marketing spin and content for arguments in forums.

If companies want to continue pushing the benefits of road-aero frames they should present test data in a more standardized manner and also relay this to real world, real rider benefits. i.e. diff in wattage to maintain a given speed or similar.

Splitting hairs.

greg
greg
11 years ago

were these tested with or without mannequin? what wheels/tires? what bars? with or without cables?

flick
flick
11 years ago

pretty obvious why they didn’t pit it against the Speed Concept

Fan
Fan
11 years ago

Truthfully, the drag numbers don’t ‘really matter much. Aerodynamic drag of a bike frame is so small compared to the rider and the wheels that all of this is splitting hairs.

The real reason to get this bike is that these guys make some of the cleanest, finest frames around… perfect alignment, clean construction inside and out, tons of attention to details. This is a total contrast to Cervelo, which consistently makes frames with poor alignment, poor quality control and generally messy construction that gets covered up by flashy paint and top-notch marketing.

Unfortunately most triathletes listen to marketing hype and their “coaches” when it comes to their bike purchases. They should consider asking mechanics once in a while. I doubt that any WOULDN’T recommend a Parlee if it’s thrown into the mix.

Nivlac
Nivlac
11 years ago

Triathletes, and road racers who time trial all have this same mentality – I only can trust the industry benchmark with the most wind tunnel data. I’m sure it’s more psychological than anything else. Cancellara would still win time trials if he was sponsored by a masonry company and they made him drag a brick behind his bike.

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