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Long Term Review: The Juliana Furtado Primeiro Women’s Mountain Bike

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Mountain Biking derailed my chance of a normal career. It is my obsession and sometimes it feels as if my life is really just ribbons of single track strung together by the ordinary moments known as daily life.

The majority of you reading this likely share that same obsession, but according to our web analytics, probably don’t have a second X chromosome. Yet according to recent studies, women are the largest potential growth area for the cycling market, and recently manufacturers have begun to take notice.

First amongst these brands is Juliana Bicycles, which is named after the legendary racer Juliana Furtado. These bikes share the same platform as Santa Cruz, but are differentiated by smaller bars, a ladies saddle, and a distinct paint job…Which is why this is the most difficult review I have ever written.

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To paraphrase the Bard, a Furtado by any other name would be a Santa Cruz Solo 5010. From this exceptional starting point, the Juliana brand has modified the bike to be “women’s specific” by adding the aformentioned bars, saddle, and iconography.

Rather than focusing on the subtle physical nuances that differentiate our torso or femur length from men, the brand focused on these specific contact points to ensure a better out of the box fit for women.

Now, a quick bit of clarification on this model’s name since the personality behind it is Juliana Furtado. This is the Juliana brand’s Furtado model, much as the Toyota brand has a Camry model. The Premiero is the trim level, but that naming scheme has since been simplified to something like XT, X01, or similar to denote the majority of the build. The bike tested here was an early model, hence the name and some spec choices noted below.

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In their first year of production, all Juliana Bicycles came equipped with a compact 680mm bar, that tapered to a smaller than standard diameter at the grip.

Juliana Compact Bar Tapared Edge

Juliana Compact Grip Compared to a ODI Ruffian
The Juliana Grip compared to the classic ODI Ruffian.

This allowed the complete builds to be equipped with a smaller that average grip. Many smaller women I spoke with claimed that this grip helped reduce arm pump, but at 5’7, I found them to be a touch too small.

On newer models, the extra small sizes continue to ship with the compact bar and grip, but the larger sizes come equipped with standard grips.

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On the Small frame, 170mm Shimano Cranks come standard, but the Medium and Large models get longer 175mm cranks.

All of the first year Juliana models came equipped with a triple. Despite the fact that sister company Santa Cruz Bikes was largely responsible for popularizing the ten thousand dollar mountain bike, the same high end kit (XTR/XX1, etc..) was not available on the women’s models for nearly a year, until the Roubion was announced.

Our review bike came with a full XT group set and was considered the flagship model when it was introduced. As spec’d, I had issues with the chain derailing on prolonged descents, and would have preferred either a 1x or double.

(Editor’s Note: As a group here, we tend to think triple’s aren’t the right choices for either performance bikes or kids bikes due to the rare-if-ever use of the largest ring and the added weight and complexity they add. Fortunately, all current models of the Furtado now ship with 1x or 2x drivetrains.)

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One of the custom items developed specifically for by the brand is the Primiero saddle. It’s a little wider than a traditional unisex model, has a central channel for the lady parts, and a “flex tuned shell” with Kevlar reinforced sides.

I can’t quite compare it to being swaddled in the leather seats of a luxury European sedan, but it is fairly comfortable for a performance bike saddle.

Juliana Furtado

This Juliana rolls on custom stickered WTB i23 rims laced to DT hubs, which are wrapped front and rear with meaty Maxxis HighRoller II tires. Those tires are rad on the descents, but felt a little sluggish uphill. A worthy tradeoff? It all depends on your riding style.

On The Trail

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Solo road trip along the Oregon coast with the Juliana

The focus of any bike review should be the bike, but in this case, I also struggled with the larger issue of women in cycling. Like no other product or brand, this bike forced me to confront those questions. It was such an emotional issue that I had to walk away from this review several times, and even after dozens of impassioned debates, I’m still unsure of where I stand on the idea of women’s specific geometries or products.

The sticking point for me is that Juliana Bicycles are just repainted Santa Cruz models and it’s sort of deceptive. I really feel like they missed a great opportunity to cater to the women’s market in a meaningful way by offering different suspension valving for lighter weights, etc. but then, I go out on a ride with a woman who rode the same model (Santa Cruz/Juliana) back-to-back, and came away from the experience feeling that the Juliana performed better. Maybe that’s the point? Maybe to get more women into cycling we need to create brands and experiences that ladies can identify with, and as the market grows, we’ll see more targeted innovations.

The moral and philosophical debates aside, the Furtado is an extremely versatile bike. The bike accompanied me from Santa Cruz to Canada and back down over the summer, and was the perfect companion on all day epics. It’s an adept climber even with the shock wide open, and it’s playful nature encourages you to go for the silly trail side bonus lines.

Juliana Furtado Side View

On rugged descents, it felt as if the rear shock could use more mid support (although it’s already sporting the largest Float spacer available), and some lighter testers felt that they couldn’t set the rebound fast enough. At 130mm of travel, the 32mm fork didn’t feel flexy, but if this were my personal rig, I would mount up a 140mm fork. This would slacken the frame out slightly, and make it even more capable.

Considering all the praise that have already been heaped on the 5010, it’s no surprise that it’s identical twin performs. So if this Juliana model gets you (or a special lady in your life) stoked about riding, it’s well worth considering. And with the introduction of the new affordable carbon models earlier this year, a complete Furtado could be had for as little as $3,599.

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Chris
Chris
9 years ago

Why is Saris reviewing a woman’s bike? I thought to myself. Maybe he’s a small Asian dude like a lot of my riding buddies? Hum. Kinda dodgy, reviewing a woman’s bike when you’re a dude? I should google him just to be sure….

Sorry Saris, thought you were a guy all these posts. Will try to stop being a sexist dumbass.

Joseph Clemenzi
9 years ago

HA! ^

saris is just a boss

James S
James S
9 years ago

Another point to consider – what about resale? If you try to sell a used Juliana, will the lack of women’s specific bikes mean that it will be easy to sell or will the smaller number of women riders mean that you can’t sell it because no dude will want it even though it is really just a 5010 in drag?

Slow Joe Crow
Slow Joe Crow
9 years ago

From my experience there is a definite need for women’s specific geometries and products. My wife is 5’1″ with short arms and legs so her reach and standover are even smaller than usual for her height. All of her bikes have shorter stems, zero offset seatposts and other tweaks to get even nominally woman specific bikes to fit. The most extreme hack has to be her CX bike which has 26″ wheels to get the standover down.
Paint and contact points aren’t really enough to make a bike “female specific” there needs to be an actual shift in geometry to handle shorter height, and different body proportions.
Money permitting I would get her a Trek Lush, because she loved it when she demoed one in 2012 except that Trek decided to make it a 29er so now she can’t ride them. Bike companies need to keep in mind that more of the women’s market is built like Coryn Rivera than Helen Wyman.

Chader
Chader
9 years ago

I like Santa Cruz, but this is a very weak attempt as a “womens” bike.

Specialized and Trek (possibly others) make a bikes for women that have real differences in geometry and suspension compared to the male counterparts.

dontcoast
dontcoast
9 years ago

Yes, because tiny women always have tiny hands.

What a joke.

a
a
9 years ago

and males always have big hands of course.

yeah it doesnt make any sense to me either. all the girls i know use “non girl bikes” just as well and they certainly dont see the need to pay extra for the “girl version” of their favorite brands… its the same bike… and these are adaptable to various physiologies.. heck quite a few girls are much bigger and stronger than I am for example.

Beth
Beth
9 years ago

And what about big girls? I’m 5’2” and well north of 200 pounds and have trouble with fit. And no I don’t want a pink bike with flowers or hello kitty. I want a bike that f**king fits.

lonefrontranger
lonefrontranger
9 years ago

I am a 5’4″ woman who has never purchased a women’s specific bike because the standard “W/S” geometry does not fit me.

can we PLEASE stop gendering bike geometries and start selling models with “short reach” or “standard reach”? I know quite a few men, my husband included, who have “women’s” geometry specific builds (long legs, short torsos, short reach) who would benefit from bikes being made for their builds without being pink, teal or covered in flower graphics.

Nobody benefits from having gendered marketing in this case.

please and thank you.

Whyohwhy
Whyohwhy
9 years ago

@slowjoecrow The Trek Lush is now 650b!

Funk
Funk
9 years ago

Having built multiple bikes for my wife, it has not been as much about frame geometry as building the bike to her fit and weight. I always spec the lightest wheels possible and then fit the contact points to her. She needs a bike at feels light at the pedals. My go to wheels on all her mountain bikes are Stan’s Race Golds that hold up great under a light rider. Personally, I always buy a frame and go from there.

dontcoast
dontcoast
9 years ago

RE: -a

SOME women do really benefit tremendously from bikes with “women’s geometry”

The ones with Looooong legs and relatively short torso and arms.

But that should read SOME “riders” not “women”. I regularly fit men to bikes that have short torsos and long legs (though not as often as women)

And there are plenty of women who do NOT fit on “women’s” geometries (fitted a woman the other day who had very short legs and a very long torso and arms…the “unisex” bikes with appropriate seat tube heights/angles were very much on the short side for her.

In a prefect world, you could choose from “long and low standover” “regular” and “long leg short reach” geometries. You can do that now if you want to spend hours looking at geometries.

And then, as a final part of fitting the bike, you could trade in the stock “medium” grips for narrows or wides. A good bike shop would give you a trade in credit on the stock ones.

Anyways, I think the Julianas are perfectly good bikes with atrocious fallacies in their marketing schtick and that annoys the shit outta me.

hellbelly
hellbelly
9 years ago

I like Kona’s approach on this. They took their popular Process model and scaled it down for smaller (< 5'4") riders and not necessarily gender specific.

http://konaworld.com/process_134_se.cfm

It's not painted with a women's specific paint job or any other nonsense. It's a high performance bike for anyone of smaller stature. I showed it to my 5' wife who dug it and said that pink paint jobs and calling something women's specific isn't appealing anyway.

Michele
Michele
9 years ago

As a short, but not skinny, lady, with short legs and an aggressive riding style, I couldn’t embrace the Julianas, their stand over height and reach are backwards for me, and the Heckler fit my style and size better. Balance, centering, and like another poster noted, a light in the pedals feel are what matters to me. I tried my hubby’s medium and I loved it. He already has and loves his green, so I’m getting the black and yellow. You know what matters least to me? Color! What matters most? Having a bike that inspires speed and confidence. Give me that big travel bike, because the reviewer beefed up her fork, not only to provide more travel but to change the slack angle one inch, exactly the stock angle of the Heckler. Will it be a heavier ride than a Bantam/Juno, sure, but I’m not 110 lbs or racing this weekend. I do know I’ll be upping my jump and drop skills this month, knowing this bike, with this rider, will take the hits and ask for seconds. Thanks for a great in depth review that has me feeling great about my “unisex” purchase. What does it matter what the color is, I’ll be flying by so fast all you’ll see will be my dust!

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